Comments on: Writing Dialogue That Works (Part One) https://frizzybee.com/writing-dialogue-that-works-part-one/ Sun, 27 Mar 2016 20:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 By: JHWinter https://frizzybee.com/writing-dialogue-that-works-part-one/#comment-32 Sun, 27 Mar 2016 20:33:00 +0000 http://blog.jhwinter.com/?p=31#comment-32 In reply to Joy Pixley.

So very true. It is always easier to pick these kinds of issues out in other people’s work than our own. We have our writer-blinders on. That’s why we go through so many drafts when we edit. It takes looking at the same work ten times to catch things we missed throughout the other nine revisions!

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By: Joy Pixley https://frizzybee.com/writing-dialogue-that-works-part-one/#comment-31 Sun, 27 Mar 2016 17:41:22 +0000 http://blog.jhwinter.com/?p=31#comment-31 In reply to Joy Pixley.

* another writer’s work. Boy, do I make more typos when posting on writing blogs? Pretty sure I do. Sigh.

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By: Joy Pixley https://frizzybee.com/writing-dialogue-that-works-part-one/#comment-30 Sun, 27 Mar 2016 17:40:08 +0000 http://blog.jhwinter.com/?p=31#comment-30 Great post about an important problem. It’s so easy for me to see this in other writer’s work, and yet somehow it still pops up in my own writing when I’m not looking — how sneaky it is!

I only recently learned the term for this, the “As you know, Bob” problem. Now when I’m writing a critique, I mention that and hope the person searches for the term, since there’s a ton of good advice out there on how to recognize and avoid it.

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By: JHWinter https://frizzybee.com/writing-dialogue-that-works-part-one/#comment-29 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:26:40 +0000 http://blog.jhwinter.com/?p=31#comment-29 In reply to Diane Draper.

Hi Diane! Thank you for the comment! Being a writer of fantasy myself, I know how difficult it is to get that description into our stories for the reader. One technique I’ve used, which I will be talking about in a future post, is going through the entire manuscript (during editing) and only read the dialogue. See if it makes sense, or if it’s bogged down by the details. Some details are okay, especially if neither person having the conversation know them already. Since you are writing in first person present tense, you can always use your character’s inner thoughts as well, to get some of those details in. Play around with it, and as you said, find that balance.

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By: Diane Draper https://frizzybee.com/writing-dialogue-that-works-part-one/#comment-28 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 17:42:43 +0000 http://blog.jhwinter.com/?p=31#comment-28 Since I’m writing a fantasy novel where the protagonist doesn’t know anything about the world she’s in, I find this especially difficult. It’s first person present tense so the reader learns along with her, but I find that if I need a lot of description in dialogue, I tend to have it revealed over time. I also break it up with questions or reactions to keep the explanations believable. I’m still writing and editing, so I hope to find that balance before publishing.

Thanks for the post!

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By: JHWinter https://frizzybee.com/writing-dialogue-that-works-part-one/#comment-27 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 05:32:45 +0000 http://blog.jhwinter.com/?p=31#comment-27 In reply to Heather.

I agree that a lot of the time where I’m noticing the over-description in dialogue, tends to be in YA books. Even in TV shows like Shadowhunters (based off of Cassandra Clare’s Mortal Instruments series), they are writing the dialogue to have way too much description. It makes the characters sound “cheesy” and not true to life. I loved those books and I will continue to watch the show, but somehow they need to find a better way of getting some of the backstory into the dialogue without sounding like the characters are reading a dictionary definition. An excellent example of quick, true to life dialogue, can be found in Rainbow Rowell’s books. Her book FANGIRL is a great example of this. Highly recommended if you haven’t read it already!

Writers just need to spend a little bit more time in their character’s heads to figure out what needs to be said vs what is already shared knowledge among those talking. We need to read and write dialogue with the hope that it will push the story forward, not be bogged down by the details. Thank you again for the great comment!

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By: Heather https://frizzybee.com/writing-dialogue-that-works-part-one/#comment-26 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 02:15:19 +0000 http://blog.jhwinter.com/?p=31#comment-26 This is a great post! That example you gave was extremely helpful in illustrating the issue. When I think about books I’ve read where I noticed this issue the most, I’m finding that the majority of them were YA books. I’m not sure if that is just a coincidence. Do you think some genres might be trickier than others when trying to avoid this problem?

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